The War In Intaki discussion has moved along. Many people are taking part and a great deal of opinions have been contributed.
Whether out of a need to release stress and frustration or simply because I really do feel this strongly about the topic, I’ve continued to speak my mind, and have actually enjoyed a great deal of it, too.
For me, the ball started rolling a few days ago…
Originally by: Diana Kim
Do nothing for the State, and the State will ignore you. This is our way.
Citizens in Intaki were previously doing, have been doing, and continue to do, nothing for the State, but the State is not ignoring us; rather, the State salivates over us like a mongrel dog offered steak. Why do you persist against breaking “your way” with regard to Intaki? You weren’t invited; go back to that hole you crawled out of.
…but didn’t really pick up until Dex Nederland spoke up with his ideas about how things might have or could have or should have happened in this whole stupid conflict. I don’t really see the point of going down such paths. Why bother? Wishing about what didn’t happen just isn’t productive:
Originally by: Dex Nederland
Everyone has the right to establish contractual agreements with others regardless of whether they “own” the areas in which it applies. The extent (territorial, temporal, or otherwise) to which the contract applies is for those party to the contract to decide.
You seem to wish to cast the Caldari in a better light over their actions in auctioning development rights in occupied territories. Fair enough. The State could do well to be cast in a better light, because they have shown very little respect to everyone affected by the auction.
If the State wanted to create or expand business opportunities in Placid, certainly they could have negotiated in good faith with the Federation and the Intaki Assembly. After all, the Feds and the Assembly would have been party to any contract too. But that’s not what the State did, and spouting rhetoric about what could have been serves only to muddy the reality of the issue.
The fact is the war happened and the auction was a direct result of it. You can’t ignore this or the occupation simply for the convenience of your argument. These events are directly linked. The State decided to force its way in and occupy the system, laying claim to something they had no business touching in the first place. Only then did they start divvying up what they arrogantly felt was “theirs”.
So, Ishukone bid and won “rights” to “develop” the Intaki system. But no one in Intaki was asked whether they wanted Ishukone’s presence and nor was the existing business community consulted regarding diverting the system’s available resources to support any State entity. The State simply arrived and said, “This is what we’re doing and tough shit if you don’t like it.”
Under such duress, is it any wonder the State is not welcomed by the majority of Intaki and Gallente citizens alike? It does not matter if Ishukone later sat at the negotiating table with the Assembly once the Caldari were ousted from our space. The damage was already done.
And then, a bit later:
Originally by: Dex Nederland
For a moment, assume
Why? You do know that old adage about making assumptions, yes?
Why do you insist on subsisting on assumptions and theories and could-have-beens? You can present your alternate viewpoint all you want but you aren’t actually contributing anything useful because it has no basis in reality. Is the real world just so hard for you to swallow that this is the only way you can justify your belief that the State is so glorious?
Additionally, I never said the Federation was better. I’m a separatist! I don’t want either entity to have its money-grubbing, capitalistic, culture obliterating hands mucking about in my homeland. I hate the State almost as much as I hate the Serpentis. That doesn’t mean I love the Federation.
But if, in the end, Intaki could not stand alone as she did before the Gallente came and I had to choose between State or Federation, I would still pick the Federation over the State any day as the least of two evils.